Excerpts from the California
Republican Debate Transcript
May 3, 2007, MSNBC
Updated: 8:48 a.m. ET May 4, 2007
Get the full transcript at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18478985/
Here are a few
questions that Representative
Ron Paul (R-Texas),
answered during the California Republican Debate:
The War in
Iraq
Moderator:
Congressman
Paul, you voted against the war. Why are all your fellow Republicans up here
wrong?
Representative
Ron Paul (R-Texas): That's
a very good question. And you might ask the question, why are 70 percent of the
American people now wanting us out of there, and why did the Republicans do so
poorly last year?
So
I would suggest that we should look at foreign policy. I'm suggesting very
strongly that we should have a foreign policy of non- intervention, the
traditional American foreign policy and the Republican foreign policy.
Throughout
the 20th century, the Republican Party benefited from a non-interventionist
foreign policy. Think of how Eisenhower came in to stop the Korean War. Think of
how Nixon was elected to stop the mess in Vietnam.
How
did we win the election in the year 2000? We talked about a humble foreign
policy: No nation-building; don't police the world. That's conservative, it's
Republican, it's pro-American -- it follows the founding fathers. And, besides,
it follows the Constitution.
I
tried very hard to solve this problem before we went to war by saying,
"Declare war if you want to go to war. Go to war, fight it and win it, but
don't get into it for political reasons or to enforce U.N. resolutions or
pretend the Iraqis were a national threat to us.
Read
more of Ron Paul's
thoughts on the Iraq War
The
IRS
Moderator: Congressman
Paul, Pete from Rochester Hills, Michigan wants to ask you this. If you were
president, would you work to phase out the IRS?
(Laughter)
Paul: Immediately.
(Laughter)
Moderator:
That's
what they call a softball.
Paul: And
you can only do that if you change our ideas about what the role of government
ought to be. If
you think that government has to take care of us, from cradle to grave, and if
you think our government should police the world and spend hundreds of billions
of dollars on a foreign policy that we cannot manage, you can't (ph) get rid of
the IRS; but, if you want to lower taxes and if you want the government to quit
printing the money to come up with shortfall and cause all the inflation, you
have to change policy.
Unifying the
Country
Moderator:
... the question is: How do you unify the country the way
Reagan did, a good portion of the country?
Moderator:
OK,
let me go to -- Dr. Paul, how do you reconcile this moral, moral leadership kind
of role of conservatism with the very libertarian strain of conservatism -- the
Barry Goldwater conservatism that you represent? How do you put together what he
just said with what you believe in a unified national purpose?
Paul:
Well,
you do it by understanding of what the goal of government ought to be. If the
goal of government is to be the policeman of the world, you lose liberty. And if
the goal is to promote liberty, you can unify all segments. The freedom message
brings us together; it doesn't divide us.
I
believe that when we overdo our military aggressiveness, it actually weakens our
national defense. I mean, we stood up to the Soviets. They had 40,000 nuclear
weapons. Now we're fretting day in and day and night about third-world countries
that have no army, navy or air force, and we're getting ready to go to war.
But
the principle, the moral principle, is that of defending liberty and minimizing
the scope of government.
Federal Funding of
Stem Cell Research
Moderator:
Dr. Paul, yes or no on federal funding?
Paul:
Programs
like this are not authorized under the Constitution. The trouble with issues
like this is, in Washington we either prohibit it or subsidize it. And the
market should deal with it, and the states should deal with it.
Should
We Change the Constitution
Moderator: OK. Let me ask you a question regarding immigration. One of our prized guests here today, Governor Schwarzenegger -- looking this man in the eye, answer this question -- I'm going to go down the line, starting with Governor Romney.
Should we change our Constitution, which we believe is divinely inspired...
(Laughter)
... to allow men like Mel Martinez, the chairman of your party, born in Cuba, great patriot, the senator from Florida, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, to stand here some night?
Ron Paul: I'm a no, because I am a strong supporter of the original intent.
Moderator: Oh, God.
What Taxes Would You Cut?
Moderator: OK.
Let's start with an enjoyable down-the-line, OK? I want each candidate to
mention a tax you'd like to cut, in addition to the Bush tax cuts, keeping them
in effect.
Paul: Well,
in my first week, I already got rid of the income tax. In my second week, I
would get rid of the inflation tax. It's a tax that nobody talks about.
We live way
beyond our means, with a foreign policy we can't afford, and an entitlement
system that we have encouraged. We print money for it. The value of the money
goes down, and poor people pay higher prices.
That is a tax.
That's a transfer of wealth from the poor and the middle class to Wall Street.
Wall Street's doing quite well, but the inflation tax is eating away at the
middle class of this country. We need to get rid of the inflation tax with sound
money.
Can You
Trust Mainstream Media?
Moderator:
Congressman
Paul, Carrie from Connecticut asks: Do you trust the mainstream media?
(Laughter)
Paul:
Some
of them.
(Laughter)
But
I trust the Internet a lot more, and I trust the freedom of expression. And
that's why we should never interfere with the Internet. That's why I've never
voted to regulate the Internet. Even when there's the temptation to put bad
things on the Internet, regulation of bad and good on the Internet should be
done differently.
But,
no, there's every reason to believe that we have enough freedom in this country
to have freedom of expression. And that's what is important. And whether or not
we trust the mainstream or not, I think you pick and choose. There are some
friends, and some aren't so friendly.
A
National ID Card
Paul:
I
am absolutely opposed to a national ID card. This is a total contradiction of
what a free society is all about.
The
purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all
individuals, not the secrecy of government. We don't need a national ID card.
President Bush
Moderator: How
will you be different, in any way, from President George W. Bush?
Paul: I
certainly would continue on my earlier theme that foreign policy needs to be
changed -- Mr. Republican, Robert Taft, we have a statue of him in Washington.
He advocated
the same foreign policy that I advocate.
I would work
very hard to protect the privacy of American citizens, being very, very cautious
about warrantless searches. And I would guarantee that I would never abuse
habeas corpus.
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